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“For law-abiding user is not only nothing has changed, law-abiding user will benefit from this,” – said the newspaper VIEW Director of the League of safe Internet Denis Davydov, commenting on the new measures deanonimizatsii users in social networks. In his opinion, the measures will help to prevent new terrorist acts on the territory of Russia.
At the end of last week, the Ministry of communications issued a discussion draft of his order on the regulatory requirements for equipment used in the informsystems the organizers of information dissemination (ARI) on the Internet (instant messengers, social networks and so on, the registry ORI leads Roskomnadzor). While the text of the document only presented for public discussion (up to 6 September) on the Federal portal of projects of normative acts, anyone can Express their wishes.
The order has already caused a wide public resonance – it lists what data about users ORI will be required to transfer to special services, particularly the FSB, on request. Among such user information includes a nickname (alias), passport details, address, email, IP address, billing information, text messages, sent and received files, information about knowledge of foreign languages, as well as other users of social networks, these as relatives.
What is the purpose of the new measures and why Russians should not worry about their introduction, as well as similar practices in other countries, in an interview with the newspaper look told the Executive Director of the League of safe Internet Denis Davydov.
The VIEW: Denis N. whether the proposed package of measures to help prevent new terrorist acts on the territory of Russia?
Denis Davydov: Yes, that’s right. This is the real true goal of these innovations. Finally, our law enforcement and intelligence agencies will have normal, effective tools in order, to react to terrorist threats. This is exactly what was missing. If such a system is established, it is clear that the main field of its application is counter – terrorism.
Denis Davydov (photo: Vladimir Gerdo/TASS)
OPINION: would this Facilitate the carrying out quickly-search actions?
D. D.: Yes, significantly. Previously, the dealers did their secret mischief – robbed, cheated – on the Internet, and to find them, you had to perform feats to the police. Now is going to make it much easier.
OPINION: in order to analyze such a large amount of information, you will need probably a large number of specialists? But people are always not enough, and besides, it can be very costly.
D. D.: the fact that thanks to modern technology analysis of large data sets a large part will perform the algorithms and – in the future – the program of artificial intelligence. Intervention living people, specialists will be required only in those cases where information really is of value, importance and necessary to carry out law enforcement duties.
OPINION: So, the system will, in fact, sharpened the analysis of this information by Big data technologies?
D. D.: in General, any similar systems that store hundreds of millions of records, metadata and other information, of course, focused primarily on storage and convenient retrieval of information. That is, such systems can offer some insights that need further inspection by law enforcement and intelligence agencies. When carrying out quickly-search actions or the investigation of any crime, these data would be very useful.
OPINION: a year ago there were reports that the authorities in Russia are already using Big data technologies (big data).
D. D.: it is Difficult to say whether it is right Big data technologies. Now, as far as I know, the state only discusses the architecture and those authorities and organizations which will be engaged in the collection and processing of such data. However, we can say that both the state and private business in this part of the deal.
If we look at operators, for example, cellular communication or in the credit and banking institutions, such as Sberbank, than it is not the operators of the “big data” which they process and make on the basis of this analysis some conclusions?
OPINION: is it True that for this system all personal information is a kind of “white noise”, and certain structures and phrases which can be connected with plans of acts of terrorism will be “highlighted”?
D. D.: the fact that the information collected will not affect the right of citizens to inviolability of private life and secrecy of correspondence. It will be primarily data that could identify an individual user. In General, it is a system which data to collect and store.
Be processed this information will be only by request only by court order. So that the law enforcement and intelligence agencies will not just have access, for example, to the messages that users send to each other.
The government says banning of anonymity. Have in mind that for the state for law enforcement and intelligence agencies should not be anonymous users. However, each of these users has a right to privacy, to confidentiality of communications. Therefore, the state strongly demonstrates and declares that will defend that right. Meanwhile, various transnational Internet giants violate this right.
Many people say: “Here, all is lost, now the FSB will know the user login and IP address”. So what? It will help us all to avoid problems with terrorists. For some reason, few people say that same of Google, Amazon, Facebook not only keep users ‘ private messages, but also use them at their discretion. That is, they read your private messages. Google directly says, “Yes, we read your correspondence”.
OPINION: For the average law-abiding user that nothing will change?
D. D.: For the law-abiding user is not only nothing has changed, law-abiding user will benefit from this. I can safely cite the example of China. Many begin to laugh and giggle, when it comes to China, tell some scary stories about censorship, how everything is bad. Actually in China after the ban anonymity of the Internet economy began to grow faster, the number of frauds decreased in the Network. And ordinary citizens benefit from this, especially in terms of safety.
I am sure that the introduction of such a system will enable us to win not only in terms of security and safety against terrorist threats, but also thanks to the new tools and features that will get the law enforcement agencies, will increase the detection of many crimes committed using the Internet.
Here it seems to me, by the way, that is logical, if the access to these tools will not only get the FSB and the Ministry of interior. And, for example, those cases on pedophiles online that kids getting molested, will move from the dead point. Just because it is now thanks to the Internet they are encrypted, exchanged for some closed, secret sites with tips on how to seduce children.
OPINION: you partly touched on already. Many bloggers and other critics in the discussion of this project forget that our lives, our safety often depends on the people who protect our peace of mind: from intelligence agencies, from the internal organs. Why?
D. D.: It really is. Our security is entirely dependent on the efficiency and effectiveness of the system of operative-investigative activities, as well as from the interaction of society, law enforcement and intelligence agencies. Because it is not solely the task of the security bodies to resolve these issues. Alone, without relying on society to make this very difficult. It turns out very strange story. Much is being done to ensure that the bodies had modern tools to ensure our security, and there are some people who are cranky and say weird things that don’t need to do. Although the whole world is moving towards tighter controls.
Generally, activists who advocate the anonymity of the Internet somehow do not understand one thing. It lies in the fact that the anonymity of the Network is gone forever. It is no longer – and never will be.
VIEW: AND was she ever?
D. D.: It was very conditional. And law enforcement agencies with the big share of probability could be set or another one in your Network, even if it took some amount of time. Now it will need to spend less, and saved time can be used to search for criminals, terrorists and extremists.
LOOK: You said that the whole world is going the way of limiting anonymity on the Internet. The British Parliament last year approved a law that obliges operators to store during the year the data about all sites visited by their users, and communication services used by subscribers, and also determines under what circumstances the authorities have the right to hack into computers of users. Why is our opposition-minded bloggers ignore this fact?
D. D.: some bloggers have the idea that throughout the world different, and in Russia we have a “bloody regime” stifled the rights and freedoms of man and citizen. It’s such an artificial world in which they live. They themselves created it. And they don’t even bother to follow the news from other countries. And the news from other countries – about the same order. The state in all these countries provides control over the Network for data transmission.
In Germany, for example, is already regulated at the legislative level the question of what you can write in social networks, and what not. And that prohibited content in social networks to remove themselves independently Internet sites. Of course, if our various bloggers, opposition and non-opposition, just more interested in this issue, they would have realized that it is a global trend. It is not associated with any stifle freedoms, and is associated with banal security.
We live in the XXI century and modern terrorists is not just some bearded, riding on a donkey, modern terrorists, who are competent people with skills in programming and cryptography. In addition, they attract programmers to wage cyber warfare against the “infidels” in their understanding. These people have sufficient skills to any of the European cities to organize a blackout – turn off power stations, water towers, transport. So, of course, around the world States are trying to counter. One solution to this problem is data collection and their short storage.
I would like here to draw attention to the fact that we are talking about a short-term storage of this data, while Google, probation, or Facebook keep the data forever, forever! They are not washed, they remain forever. That is why they build US a giant “data centers”.
OPINION: IN the Netherlands too, since the end of last year there has been a public discussion of the bill, will involve the collection with the help of local operators information about messages and calls users and its subsequent storage. Authorities plan to monitor correspondence and conversations of Dutch and calculate potential terrorists. Do you think it will take you there in the end this law?
D. D.: of Course, it will be adopted. The fact that EU countries have become hostages of the flow of migrants, flow of refugees. Many of those who are represented by refugees, are active members of illegal armed groups and terrorist cells.
This, in turn, significantly increases the terrorist threat. Traditional methods of operational-search activities to cope with such shaft information is simply unrealistic. Therefore, it is a question of the future of our quite close, when European and not only European countries will adopt similar laws. I am confident that these laws will be more stringent than in Russia.
OPINION: so, after some time the whole world will move towards a more thorough control of the Internet space – in order to protect from terror and from crime?
D. D.: Yes, and the next questions that will occur to the state, including within the framework of bilateral and multilateral relations, the regulation of interaction in the field of data transmission. Information about our citizens is inviolable and protected by the state. Therefore, the state will have to regulate on some level Convention of the international rules for the use of these data, their cross-border transfer.
If our government guarantees the right to privacy, it will need to ensure it and by treating other participants, including from abroad. International legislation in this sphere European, Russian, American – will gradually be harmonised.